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Make Electronic Calipers Rechargeable with Junk Bin Parts

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Make Electronic Calipers Rechargeable with Junk Bin Parts Subscribe to the channel: /channel/UCNt-VKnOf-6-vVYqdiI_K8g Support this channel via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/allthingsoneplace In this video I am building something! I know, that’s not allowed here. But batteries are annoying, and my solution is also bad but it works so watch the video to find out how I solved the problem. Paid affiliate links to help the channel Anker Prime A2343 100W Power Adapter: https://amzn.to/3s45wbE ZMI PowerPack No. 20, QB826G 25k mAh, 210W: https://amzn.to/3KNM9dc Anker 737 PowerCore 24K Power Bank: https://amzn.to/3S9nSQL 165W Satechi USB Adapter ST-UC165GM: https://amzn.to/3YAgpNV 100W Desktop Adapter: https://amzn.to/3a4Pfuy Video on USB Cables: /watch/odJVLUhy5DVyV Video on Power Quality: /watch/EhN6GVx63rH66 Equipment: Video Editing Software: DaVinci Resolve 18 Video Camera / Still Camera: Sony ZV1 Lights: Three VILTROX VL-200T Microphone: Blue encore300 / MOTU / Reaper GW Instek GPM-8310 Power Analyzer https://amzn.to/3PiabfR Power Z USB 3.1 Decoy (PD 3.1 Emulator) eBay Siglent SDL1020X-E Programmable DC Electronic Load https://amzn.to/3PkL2Ba AC Power Supply: GW Instek APC-5050A https://amzn.to/3uk5p9V Website: https://www.allthingsoneplace.com/ Other Website: https://pqs.app/ 00:00 Intro 01:08 CALIPERS and BATTERIES 04:07 The problem 06:00 Calculating the solution 07:43 Building 09:10 Testing 11:00 Conclusion

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    @SteveParks6 months ago This is one of the coolest videos you’ve made. As an electronics hobbyist I understand all these things and know of all these tools, but have never had someone to show me how to do it. Book knowledge is cheap, practical application and real world learning is expensive.
    Thank you for doing this, it’s an awesome service to the world!
    ...
    4
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    @__Ben6 months ago I've seen rechargeable CR2032 cells (but with annoying legs on them/need specific charger etc) but not for these LR44 size cells.
    I think if the LR44's in my set of very similar calipers start to annoy me enough I might print a small extenion that could mount onto it to hold a rechargeable triple A battery perhaps.
    EDIT: In fact, I just searched "Caliper battery" on printables and there are many mods others have made for several styles of these cheap calipers. I've found a AAA mount for my style calipers and a "battery saver" for this style that slightly pops the battery out of contact when not in use.
    ...
    6
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    @hausm3ister6 months ago Or, you can glue an AA/AAA battery holder to the back. (with a little bit of soldering) 5
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    @koolkiddie6 months ago There was video by some mainstream machinist few years ago where they tested the battery behaviour with chinese(counterfeit) digital calipers and original ones. Caliper function was affected with chinese calipers depending on the battery level on some significant level. I will try to find that video, they used mitutouyo digital calipers. ... 5
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    @Trevellian6 months ago Mitutoyo calipers don't run the battery down, but are more expensive than the no-name Chinese models like this. 6
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    @JohnShute4 months ago I have very similar calipers and had lots of dead batteries as well. I found that the ON/OFF button is very sensitive and just closing the case would keep the device turned on while in storage. That might be part of what you are seeing. Keep up the great work. ... 1
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    @fiveangle6 months ago Gawd I hate having to remove the battery every time too. Fun project ! 2
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    @joewhite45646 months ago Thanks for publishing this. This is something that i would buy for my calipers and my thermapen and my tv remote and all these little low power devices in my house
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    @bluesteelbass6 months ago The well thought out, methodical, scientific, and repeatable testing is fantastic, don't get me wrong. This though takes it to a whole new level! First time I have seen dead bug style with a supercapacitor involved. Function over form!!! 😁 Great touch showing the test setup with the addition of capacitor. ...
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    @Rapidfire5566 months ago Funny thing is that I’ve had the same battery for 4+ years in my calipers and have had 0 issue. Granted, I use them weekly at best, but I wonder if the issue is your caliper and not the battery. 3
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    @siberx46 months ago This is a neat build! A small general-purpose supercap replacement PCB for various small 1.5V or 3V single-use batteries like this would be a very nice circuit board to have on hand, just wire it in yourself and problem solved.
    As you found, these cheap calipers waste an absurd amount of energy when off, which is their major problem. An alternative approach would have been to switch to an LR44 battery (basically an alkaline cell in the same size/shape, vs the 357 which are silver oxide) and then add a little micro-switch to the top/side to disconnect the battery when they're not in use. It's not like this device retains anything important in volatile memory, so fully switching them off solves the discharge problem and alkalines have extremely low self-discharge. I consider the risk of leakage minimal, because most of these kinds of clone calipers are cheap anyway so it's not the end of the world if they somehow get bad enough leakage to kill them.
    I am, however, highly offended at your use of a mini-B USB socket on this device. I bought a multipack of USB C female connectors on small breakout boards for pennies off aliexpress for retrofitting into old devices in my quest to eventually banish micro-B and mini-B from everything I use, and they work great. Only issue is the ones I got make the classic error of not having proper pads/breakouts for both pull-down resistors (they just tie both CC pins to the same pad) to specify current on USB PD aware supplies, so they require a bit of rework (that I've now done ahead of time) to play nicely with things like e-marked cables.
    ...
    2
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    @SendFoodz6 months ago batter suggestion:
    NiteCore 10k "worlds smallest and lightest 10k mah power bank". it's a carbon fiber body, lithium polymer battery bank. (which polymer? who knows)
    this is the battery bank suggested by every hiking, outdoors, backpacking, camping, travel channel on YouTube.
    ...
    1
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    @jackipiegg6 months ago Did this with a $5 Zigbee aqara button that uses CR2032. Probed around where there's 1.5V or close enough and it worked. Plus side it drains very little power, according to aqara it will last 1 year, also I can use it as a zigbee button as intended. Neat 2 in 1 device. ...
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    @lightwishatnight6 months ago I live for these videos. I'm going to try this.
    Thanks
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    @makapaka71596 months ago Very interesting and great work as always.
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    @cian.horgan6 months ago Cool little project, I had asked about the calipers before so this was very nice to see. Would you consider adding a hardware power switch before the regulator to avoid the quiescent draw?
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    @lolidasterner4146 months ago I can sympathize. Having some chargers from older phones or offers from aliexpress i am constantly thinking which charger /battery i can replace with a usb c. Whishing to add a usbc port to my boss screewdriver model of 2012. ...
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    @sunny84236 months ago Which charger should I buy out of all these options Baesus gaN5 game for peace, urgreen type c 100w wall charger, Anker 735, essager 140w charger, Samsung 65w Trio charger 1
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    @brainkod6 months ago This is great! When are you spinning PCBs for this? :)
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    @nardjessboudida58206 months ago Please i have a question i’m using the anker charger 312 30w for my galaxy tab s7 plus is it compatible? I mean it doesn’t affect the battery life ?
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    @Keiuran6 months ago Please share the final schematics for this. Would be interested in making a quick DIY kit with a printed circuit board
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    @ingulari3977last month Alternativelly - just add a small slide switch to the battery + contact to act as an on/off switch.
  • @
    @StrataVision6 months ago Will i shock you if i say that my original cr2032 battery that powers RTC module on vintage pc motherboard from the late 90s is still kickin?
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    @Boda.Attila4 weeks ago The battery drains quickly because the power button only turns off the display, not the caliper itself. You can verify this by pressing the power button and then tilting the caliper sideways. You'll see the outline of the numbers on the display. Repeat this after removing the battery, and then you won't see anything on the display. I solved this by installing a microswitch. ...
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    @koolkiddie6 months ago Also I have to admit it's my wet dream to swap everything running on single use batteries in workshop to something rechargeable but their chemical composition really plays a part for some old machines. I have retrofitted almost all communication methods(like serial and even proprietary cards) to wireless but this single use batteries which also cost me more dont jave a substitute for them. ... 1
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    @DX886 months ago My digital caliper has used the same coin battery for 5 years and still isn't empty, and it came with a spare in the box. Guess your caliper has some power leakage? 1
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    @StevieFQ6 months ago Why would you need the charging circuit always attached to the calipers? It makes more sense for the charger to be separate so that it's not a nuisance when not needed.
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    @volodumurkalunyak46514 weeks ago 1x Ni-Zn AAA cell, 1x 13kOhm resistor (I think 1.9V is too much for such a caliper, 1.7V should be olay, resistor drops around 0.2V at 15 microAmps), 1× AAA holder seems better for me.
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    @JohnUsp5 months ago you can recharge the battery a couple times.
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    @gd.ritter6 months ago Why not just solder a AAA battery holder to a pair of bodge wires? Or a little plug of wood sized right could plug right into the original LR44 spot and break it out
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    @workhard2belazylast month make a finished product. i'll buy it LOL
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    @jeremytine3 months ago like the concept, however that is hideous both to the eyes and touch. Seems like time/money would be better spent buying a better caliper that doesn't go flat every week. My mitutoyo I bought 2 years ago is still going with original battery with semi frequent use and is a pleasure to use. ...
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    @TorchHacker6 months ago Thanks! You inspired me to go to an electronics store and attach a AAA battery holder to my plastic digital caliper:
  • @
    @SteveParks6 months ago This is one of the coolest videos you’ve made. As an electronics hobbyist I understand all these things and know of all these tools, but have never had someone to show me how to do it. Book knowledge is cheap, practical application and real world learning is expensive.
    Thank you for doing this, it’s an awesome service to the world!
    ...
    4
  • @
    @__Ben6 months ago I've seen rechargeable CR2032 cells (but with annoying legs on them/need specific charger etc) but not for these LR44 size cells.
    I think if the LR44's in my set of very similar calipers start to annoy me enough I might print a small extenion that could mount onto it to hold a rechargeable triple A battery perhaps.
    EDIT: In fact, I just searched "Caliper battery" on printables and there are many mods others have made for several styles of these cheap calipers. I've found a AAA mount for my style calipers and a "battery saver" for this style that slightly pops the battery out of contact when not in use.
    ...
    6
  • @
    @hausm3ister6 months ago Or, you can glue an AA/AAA battery holder to the back. (with a little bit of soldering) 5
  • @
    @koolkiddie6 months ago There was video by some mainstream machinist few years ago where they tested the battery behaviour with chinese(counterfeit) digital calipers and original ones. Caliper function was affected with chinese calipers depending on the battery level on some significant level. I will try to find that video, they used mitutouyo digital calipers. ... 5
  • @
    @Trevellian6 months ago Mitutoyo calipers don't run the battery down, but are more expensive than the no-name Chinese models like this. 6
  • @
    @JohnShute4 months ago I have very similar calipers and had lots of dead batteries as well. I found that the ON/OFF button is very sensitive and just closing the case would keep the device turned on while in storage. That might be part of what you are seeing. Keep up the great work. ... 1
  • @
    @fiveangle6 months ago Gawd I hate having to remove the battery every time too. Fun project ! 2
  • @
    @joewhite45646 months ago Thanks for publishing this. This is something that i would buy for my calipers and my thermapen and my tv remote and all these little low power devices in my house
  • @
    @bluesteelbass6 months ago The well thought out, methodical, scientific, and repeatable testing is fantastic, don't get me wrong. This though takes it to a whole new level! First time I have seen dead bug style with a supercapacitor involved. Function over form!!! 😁 Great touch showing the test setup with the addition of capacitor. ...
  • @
    @Rapidfire5566 months ago Funny thing is that I’ve had the same battery for 4+ years in my calipers and have had 0 issue. Granted, I use them weekly at best, but I wonder if the issue is your caliper and not the battery. 3
  • @
    @siberx46 months ago This is a neat build! A small general-purpose supercap replacement PCB for various small 1.5V or 3V single-use batteries like this would be a very nice circuit board to have on hand, just wire it in yourself and problem solved.
    As you found, these cheap calipers waste an absurd amount of energy when off, which is their major problem. An alternative approach would have been to switch to an LR44 battery (basically an alkaline cell in the same size/shape, vs the 357 which are silver oxide) and then add a little micro-switch to the top/side to disconnect the battery when they're not in use. It's not like this device retains anything important in volatile memory, so fully switching them off solves the discharge problem and alkalines have extremely low self-discharge. I consider the risk of leakage minimal, because most of these kinds of clone calipers are cheap anyway so it's not the end of the world if they somehow get bad enough leakage to kill them.
    I am, however, highly offended at your use of a mini-B USB socket on this device. I bought a multipack of USB C female connectors on small breakout boards for pennies off aliexpress for retrofitting into old devices in my quest to eventually banish micro-B and mini-B from everything I use, and they work great. Only issue is the ones I got make the classic error of not having proper pads/breakouts for both pull-down resistors (they just tie both CC pins to the same pad) to specify current on USB PD aware supplies, so they require a bit of rework (that I've now done ahead of time) to play nicely with things like e-marked cables.
    ...
    2
  • @
    @SendFoodz6 months ago batter suggestion:
    NiteCore 10k "worlds smallest and lightest 10k mah power bank". it's a carbon fiber body, lithium polymer battery bank. (which polymer? who knows)
    this is the battery bank suggested by every hiking, outdoors, backpacking, camping, travel channel on YouTube.
    ...
    1
  • @
    @jackipiegg6 months ago Did this with a $5 Zigbee aqara button that uses CR2032. Probed around where there's 1.5V or close enough and it worked. Plus side it drains very little power, according to aqara it will last 1 year, also I can use it as a zigbee button as intended. Neat 2 in 1 device. ...
  • @
    @lightwishatnight6 months ago I live for these videos. I'm going to try this.
    Thanks
  • @
    @makapaka71596 months ago Very interesting and great work as always.
  • @
    @cian.horgan6 months ago Cool little project, I had asked about the calipers before so this was very nice to see. Would you consider adding a hardware power switch before the regulator to avoid the quiescent draw?
  • @
    @lolidasterner4146 months ago I can sympathize. Having some chargers from older phones or offers from aliexpress i am constantly thinking which charger /battery i can replace with a usb c. Whishing to add a usbc port to my boss screewdriver model of 2012. ...
  • @
    @sunny84236 months ago Which charger should I buy out of all these options Baesus gaN5 game for peace, urgreen type c 100w wall charger, Anker 735, essager 140w charger, Samsung 65w Trio charger 1
  • @
    @brainkod6 months ago This is great! When are you spinning PCBs for this? :)
  • @
    @nardjessboudida58206 months ago Please i have a question i’m using the anker charger 312 30w for my galaxy tab s7 plus is it compatible? I mean it doesn’t affect the battery life ?
  • @
    @Keiuran6 months ago Please share the final schematics for this. Would be interested in making a quick DIY kit with a printed circuit board
  • @
    @ingulari3977last month Alternativelly - just add a small slide switch to the battery + contact to act as an on/off switch.
  • @
    @StrataVision6 months ago Will i shock you if i say that my original cr2032 battery that powers RTC module on vintage pc motherboard from the late 90s is still kickin?
  • @
    @Boda.Attila4 weeks ago The battery drains quickly because the power button only turns off the display, not the caliper itself. You can verify this by pressing the power button and then tilting the caliper sideways. You'll see the outline of the numbers on the display. Repeat this after removing the battery, and then you won't see anything on the display. I solved this by installing a microswitch. ...
  • @
    @koolkiddie6 months ago Also I have to admit it's my wet dream to swap everything running on single use batteries in workshop to something rechargeable but their chemical composition really plays a part for some old machines. I have retrofitted almost all communication methods(like serial and even proprietary cards) to wireless but this single use batteries which also cost me more dont jave a substitute for them. ... 1
  • @
    @DX886 months ago My digital caliper has used the same coin battery for 5 years and still isn't empty, and it came with a spare in the box. Guess your caliper has some power leakage? 1
  • @
    @StevieFQ6 months ago Why would you need the charging circuit always attached to the calipers? It makes more sense for the charger to be separate so that it's not a nuisance when not needed.
  • @
    @volodumurkalunyak46514 weeks ago 1x Ni-Zn AAA cell, 1x 13kOhm resistor (I think 1.9V is too much for such a caliper, 1.7V should be olay, resistor drops around 0.2V at 15 microAmps), 1× AAA holder seems better for me.
  • @
    @JohnUsp5 months ago you can recharge the battery a couple times.
  • @
    @gd.ritter6 months ago Why not just solder a AAA battery holder to a pair of bodge wires? Or a little plug of wood sized right could plug right into the original LR44 spot and break it out
  • @
    @workhard2belazylast month make a finished product. i'll buy it LOL
  • @
    @jeremytine3 months ago like the concept, however that is hideous both to the eyes and touch. Seems like time/money would be better spent buying a better caliper that doesn't go flat every week. My mitutoyo I bought 2 years ago is still going with original battery with semi frequent use and is a pleasure to use. ...
  • @
    @TorchHacker6 months ago Thanks! You inspired me to go to an electronics store and attach a AAA battery holder to my plastic digital caliper: