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Threads is Meta's New Twitter Killer

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This was a crazy week for social media apps, but first the gang talks about the Zenfone 10 now that Andrew has had a chance to use it for a week or two. Then they talk about YouTube testing and Twitter implementing a (temporary?) rate limit on the same Reddit officially started charging for its API. After that, it's all about Threads. The new Twitter-clone that that Meta just launched which Marques had early access to for the last few days. He gives his first impressions on the app and talks about what makes it interesting before we end it all with some trivia. Follow us on Threads if you have the app! Links below. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:55 Zenfone 10 and small phones 11:38 YouTube testing blocking ads 17:38 Trivia question 18:04 Babbel (Sponsored) 19:08 More Twitter and Reddit chaos 22:05 The Reddit API changes began 27:42 Twitter rate limits 35:52 Trivia question 37:11 Ad break 37:13 Threads discussion 57:43 Trivia answers 01:01:42 Outro Topics discussed: MrWhosetheBoss video: https://bit.ly/mrwhosethebosssmallphones YouTube blocking ads: https://bit.ly/youtubeblockingads Bloomberg Threads in the EU: https://bloom.bg/439Pji5 Shop products mentioned: ASUS Zenfone 10 at https://geni.us/XpzHtl Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Threads: Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@ waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@ mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@ andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@ davidimel Adam: https:https://www.threads.net/@ parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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@ismajim10 months ago Threads discussion starts at 471
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@cadenza2310 months ago You guys should definitely add a wider angle of the three of you for the podcast in the future. There are a lot of moments where Marques and one of the other two are playing off each other and I feel that missing in those moments. ... 227
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@Kubose10 months ago My reaction to ads is either one of two things: I either don't notice the ad or (if it is too annoying) I will just pull the ripcord and leave the whole site. I happily pay to have an ad free experience on sites I use every day (YT/Spotify), but if I'm browsing Twitch and I am faced with 6 30-second ads back to back before I can even watch a second of the streamers content, I will literally just close the website and go watch YT or something. Not worth my time. ... 227
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@crameraj9010 months ago The tweet limit caused an actual problem for the Chicago NASCAR race because the organizers were only communicating through Twitter during the rain delays. 314
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@MobileBytesTV10 months ago I wish it wasn't Meta who made Threads. I don't trust Zuck 1194
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@saturnsynth1110 months ago This is such a great opportunity for MySpace to come back into fashion 48
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@MitchJT10 months ago Start of Threads conversation 5
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@matthewshields10 months ago I think YouTube should allow creators to insert their own sponsored ads without them having to be baked into the video. This would allow sponsored videos to be skipped for premium users and allow creators to have relevant channel sponsors (so you're not watching an old video about a giveaway that happened 5 years ago). ... 90
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@NathanShepard10 months ago Early internet ads were also terrible. They would take up 10-25% of the entire page. And on a 28k or 56k modem, loading a ad that covers that much of your screen just dumps your entire experience. Then the ads with pop ups got rediculous - like 4-5 pop ups, each with music. Early ads were spam. Google really evolved that space to where they work and its more of a cooperative relationship. I used netscape back in the day and 15%+ of your brower was permenent rotating ads, it was obnoxious. ... 37
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@tommoex10 months ago Andrew correcting himself of how bad the Reddit app is was properly hilarious.
I'm missing Sync Pro a lot. Fantastic app. 32
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@hwadeiv10 months ago Came for the threads, stayed for trivia 41
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@henry294110 months ago I hate that these ad conversations don’t acknowledge the privacy impact.
Back in the day our tvs weren’t cataloging every piece of our existence as we watched a made for tv ad. 40
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@Woofweasel10 months ago As a part of gen z, I'm seeing a lot of my friends (myself included) jump onto the threads train that never previously used Twitter- I wonder if this is a trend that's gonna be noticeable. 27
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@MaxxDista10 months ago Man! I most say i like chemistry that the team has, I love the podcast. Keep them coming ✌️ 7
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@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep10 months ago You can tell this was recorded before Threads dropped because they didn't drop everything and talk about that first. Because since it went live, EVERYTHING has been about Threads. 8
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@firerainnzz10 months ago Meta tried to kill YouTube with igtv, they tried to kill Snapchat with slingshot, they tried to kill TikTok with reels. Will threads be different? I don’t think so, i think it’s just initial hype, like mixer and probably like kick. ... 28
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@originaozz10 months ago The part that confused me about Threads is the lack of and trending. The current search system only shows accounts, not the "topic". I think the words and conversation should still be priority. ... 11
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@thuxedo684810 months ago Started as a fan of the MKBHD channel only, but i've become glued to these full podcasts recently. And at an hour minimum that means a lot. 25
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@MrDos2210 months ago You guys have convinced me to get the family plan for YouTube! 4
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@CreaminFreeman10 months ago David's Arc Browser analogies are on point. Cheers to productivity and focus! 8
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@Kizaing10 months ago I'm surprised you didn't mention that Threads will have ActivityPub support after launch, for those out of the loop that means it will be cross compatible with Mastodon as well as Tumblr when they also implement it. Imo this largely solves the lack of people problem from Mastodon, you'll be able to follow threads accounts from your Masto account and vice versa so you won't have to use Threads if you don't want
Great discussions this episode tho! ... 28
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@XMorbius10 months ago As some others have pointed out, the Palm Pre is the first smartphone with wireless charging as a possibility. The technicalities about it requiring a separate back don't eliminate it from the question and the charging ability was included later anyway. The question has to be very specific for it to be the Nokia 920. ... 5
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@adamstewart24710 months ago The clause of them deleting your IG if you delete your Threads account is like a hostage situation....and the insane privacy policy. Like making a deal with the devil...and holding a sign "hey please spy on me 24/7". It makes Facebook and Instagram look like privacy advocates. ... 3
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@jmunt10 months ago Thanks to Andrew for bringing this point to light, but just some specifics (L x W measurements in mm):
131.5 x 64.2 - iPhone 13 mini
146.5 x 68.1 - ZenFone 9 & 10
146.7 x 71.5 - iPhone 14
But now the interesting part… the ZenFone is thicker than iPhone, so its total volume is actually 10.97–14.63% (for the zf9–zf10) BIGGER than the iPhone 14 (not a mini).
Even the iPhone 14 Pro is a significantly smaller phone than either ZenFone by volume.
Still like it though, I’m just very sad a true mini form factor is dead, and I probably would’ve switched to ZF if it was actually iPhone mini sized, but I’m sticking with my 13 mini ... 5
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@sc3ku10 months ago kids are missing out on those linear TV commercials though! 90s cartoons on Nickelodeon and ABC/Disney's 1 Saturday Morning are burned into my brain- so nostalgic.
Also - that little jingle reminds me of Earthbound for the SNES. Same way the battle music starts for early easy enemies + some in Dungeon Man ... 1
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@kahanumc10 months ago I'm so happy to see Zenfones getting some recognition. I had the 6 and 7 and loved them. I only switched to the pixel because Zenfones had so little services available in the US and I couldn't repair my 7 when I dropped it and broke the volume button ...
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@lins_z210 months ago I have this issue with Threats in the perspective of an artist. If you’re part of the artist community, you will know that the algorithm is just straight out crap where it pushes only reels, even a single image reel, more than their posts themselves, and that the posts have a really hard time reaching your own audience, where sometimes it will be less than 10% of your followers that even see it, much less interact with it, which is natural. Plus, the feed isn’t natural, it’s based on this algorithm, and you can’t change that like in Twitter. Also the censorship in Instagram was much worse than in Twitter and YouTube, and that’s already a low standard. It was such a great platform before the zucchini bought it and it has just gotten worse and worse since 2020. Let’s say Threats is great right now. Who says it won’t just turn into Instagram 2.0?! ... 4
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@jessegould110 months ago The problem with the threads “people” is it’s largely an audience that use ig and not twitter. Therefore it’s people using it like ig stories or posts.
The use case by its audience is still a little misunderstood 4
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@vinny1-0810 months ago Just finished listening to this on Spotify and I realized, I've literally listened to each and every episode without fail 😅😅 27
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@cyberrb2510 months ago I wonder if Threads is definitely going to be Activity Pub or not. Because whether they implement it or not (or how much of it they do), you may have that be a great repository for Mastodon accounts (after all, what we call Mastodon is an implementation of a "Twitter-like" social network using the Activity Pub protocol. And after all, they were at some point interested in using it. ... 1
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@tonydelgado1010 months ago Wasn’t the palm pre the first smartphone with wireless charging? 24
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@MylesKillis10 months ago Do we really want to give meta ANOTHER chance to turn a good social media into Facebook? Instagram has a rate limit and as someone who spends all his off time on their conversing with people i get capped on a regular basis. 22
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@SpookySkeletonGang10 months ago I don't know if ya'll talk about it at some point (i've only watched the first half), but on android you can actually very easily patch the third party reddit apps with your own API key and keep using them even with access to NSFW content. There's a bunch of guides out there, it took me all of 5 minutes and I've been using sync since. ... 1
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@leafite10 months ago just wanted to note that the cameras on the zenfone 10 have a huge ring around them making them look bigger than they are, so the stabilization is pretty much all software. (still, props to asus for pulling that off!) 2
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@AbhishekNayar10 months ago Zenfone 10 has the same dimensions as the base s23 which has a 6.1" screen which should make s23 the best compact phone with Sgen2 9
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@CyberNacho10 months ago Feels like Meta is building to a WeChat competitor. 45
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@nimito_burrito10 months ago as a prevalent user of the original threads, the main reason I'd say people used it was that it was literally just Instagram without the feed. it really helped me cut down my usage of Instagram and i was pretty sad when they shut it down ...
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@jjlat268310 months ago You guys are great 👍🏼. Love you guys 😊
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@zaclaramay10 months ago The answer to the first question is wrong. The Palm Pre supported wireless charging back in 2009. It was one of the big selling points of the Palm Pre. 30
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@noahwilliamlee10 months ago Trivia Break for this podcast is like Pokemon on tv back in the day. "Who's that Pokemon?" 1
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@mangoDB10 months ago isn't zenfone the same size as a regular iphone or galaxy s23?
I think it's more similar to regular s series than s10e. 6
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@alexbaytenov10 months ago Sick smooth outro! Andrew's back, baby!
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@JakeLehenbauer10 months ago Oh no, I was going to get points on that one! The Palm Pre and the Touch Stone! Had wireless charging and released in 2009!! 1
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@Patterrz10 months ago Not used to having a social media not know what I want to see. 80% of the Threads I see are from people I’ve never interacted with before 5
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@Rea13434O10 months ago I’m more and more okay with YouTube ads because in comparison with things like Hulu it’s nothing, but what’s odd is the ability to click “stop seeing this ad” on some, and the button being completely gone. Whether it’s horror, propaganda, or completely unrelated to me, it’s in YouTube’s interest to serve better ads. And creators need to get paid ... 8
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@AbCdo0710 months ago I haven't done much research on the Zenphone 9/10, but the specs comparison puts it just under the s23 which is the same price. I would love to see a comparison between both.
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@rajakeshav250410 months ago "I'm not used to something this small" Damn. Andrew just flexed on all of us 💀 7
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@Nucleosynthese10 months ago Would love some timestamps on this video! 3
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@reading10110 months ago Loving Threads! It’s fresh yet familiar, and it will hopefully get better.
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@AV.Creative10 months ago FRIDAY HAS ARRIVED!
love yall and everything you do 👊
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@rainbow_mess10 months ago is the s23 a small phone? because the s23 and the zenfone 10 are the literal same size. I guess yes, now :) 7
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@sammyjohnson559610 months ago I think we should all take some time away from social media 57
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@JustinSulak10 months ago Wasn’t the Palm Pre the first phone with wireless charging? I was a bit young at the time but I recall hearing that it was using a proprietary wireless charging system (not Qi). I also recall that the galaxy s3 had a wireless charging back available for it, because my friend in high school actually had one! So I’m confused on the answers for trivia here ... 2
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@EL-MeGo10 months ago I loved the ZenFone 9, and I adored this ZenFone 10.
I think yes, it is an all rounder compact flagship King 👑
Happy this time they added wireless charging, a more efficient battery life due to a more efficient chipset, the top notch SD 8Gen2, so cool 😎
And yay they got the 512 GB storage on the 16 GB Ram, owesome specs providing top tear seamless performance!
With the Gimbal v.2, I would feel like a pro shooting a video footage while moving around!
Happy with the side selfie camera punch, in my opinion a better position for watching a full screen video. I see it as more practical than just having the symmetrical look of a centered selfie camera punch.
I am also a big fan of the practical flat display!
Doesn't matter the LPTO 2, as logically it might consume more battery for constantly switching back and forth between the different frequencies Hz.
The overall compact size is a breaze nowadays!
And the headphone jack, it's ever appreciated 😊
You get the charger, and the USB-C to USB-C in the box.
You also get a protective case.
I am hoping that the Software Experience and the Camera department will be up to my expectations!
To wrap up, I think it's the perfect phone for me, would keep it at least for 4 years and might go even beyond 🎉
Love this ASUS ZenFone 10, already pre-ordered the Black 16/512 variant, and can't wait to receive it!
Was waiting for your review 😊, thanks for that 🎉
Have a great day Folks! ... 1
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@krim710 months ago If Threads and Tumblr actually join the Fediverse, then the threat of one all powerful company owning social media is greatly reduced. You can just migrate yourself and your followers to another instance if Meta gets weird. 21
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@Bivonag10 months ago The palm pre was the first phone with wireless charging. It came out in 2009 8
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@Wovi1010 months ago Congrats on the regular season win, David!
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@MayuFuji10 months ago I could never forget about ads, even with Premium, there’s not a single video without a mid-roll sponsor.
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@ILoveGrilledCheese10 months ago The problem with calling the zen phone a small phone is it’s barely smaller than the iPhone 14 pro. Maybe on the android size it’s considered small but it’s still inaccurate to call it a “small” phone. 30
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@KevinHarper3DArtist10 months ago I think it would be great if Elon and Mark had an MMA match and the loser has to shut down their "twitter" platform. 63
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@theprojectsguy10 months ago it’s been a little while since i was pumped about a wvfrm pod episode…
it’s a little silly that i miss the trivia than anything that will be discussed in this episode😂
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@ElectricC0mpany10 months ago I'm surprised two of you didn't remember about Zenfone 9 being third. Zenfone ranked high in 2021 as well. Also, there is no mention of its ranking in MKBHD's review of the phone. It's totally underrated.
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@SarimAshrafi10 months ago This channel has a separate hate for Windows Phone 😂. In 2012, smartphones looked horrible. Lumia 920 was sucha great design. 3
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@49Ibanez10 months ago on the zenfone 10, I'd like to refute the common claim that small phones are good for people who want to use their phone less, the reason that I like a smaller phone is because I use my phone *so much*, I need one that's not awkward to hold when out and about and doesn't look to conspicuous when I'm on it constantly ... 4
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@brandonchapman764210 months ago My Palm Pre (2009) had Wireless Charging.
That Nokia was the first one with Qi Wireless Charging.
...man I loved the Palm Pre...
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@AllTheArtsy10 months ago I have avoided having to make a Twitter account for more than 15 years. Zuck is not gonna get me now 😂😂 8
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@badmontad10 months ago I used threads for a year and a bit before it was shut down as a way to get away from instagram but still be able to message people. It was buggy but it worked so well for me, i could keep up with my friends and not waste time doom-scrolling. ... 1
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@80-80.10 months ago I’m going to try it, I’m sick of Elon. 11
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@Wydillius10 months ago Maybe I’m out of the loop, but I have never understood the default Reddit app hate. I just have never experienced anything that can make me understand why people NEED a secondary app (other than accessibility). But I do feel for those who have gotten used to it for years and those affected by the situation as a whole ... 3
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@jlim7410 months ago 500 character limit, up to 10 images per post, 5 min max duration video on Threads 2
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@SujithRajan10 months ago The trivia questions are ridiculously hard.
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@0ooTheMAXXoo010 months ago Threads is a facebook, instagram, WhatsApp killer more than a Twitter killer... 3
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@MrNoir9310 months ago I have threads and it’s gonna be a good app for creators just wait and see. We talk about not trusting companies with our information but they’ve always had our information. We can’t run from it. 😂 3
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@nightodin254710 months ago The outro/break music is so good like what
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@TheDahc110 months ago I use a Samsung s23U and the one thing I don't like about it is how huge it is. The Zenphone looks very tempting. I'd have to compare the OS vs OneUI 2
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@JohnSmith-gb8hd10 months ago The Asus Zenfone 10 is not a small phone.
- iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g)
- Samsung Galaxy S23 (146.3 x 70.9 x 7.6mm | 168 g)
- Asus Zenfone 10 (146.5 x 68.1 x 9.4 mm | 172 g)
- iPhone 14 (146.7 x 71.5 x 7.80 mm | 172 g)
Also, at , why are they talking about the Apple iPhone SE (2022) (138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm | 144 g), when the iPhone 13 Mini (131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm | 141 g) is significantly smaller and still being sold today? ... 3
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@TechnooRam10 months ago Honestly Twitter's biggest power is it users. Like the most famous guys over there are not going to try a new app so soon! 14
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@krim710 months ago Mastodon is not down all the time... If it is for you, then you need to switch instances and move to a better one. 2
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@IanZainea199010 months ago imo, youtube should show ads based on overall watch time, not strictly on a per video basis. Like, for every 10 minutes of watch time you get served 1 minute of ads or something like that. To prevent the whole 1 minute of ads on a 2 minute video situation ... 1
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@TimidSylveon10 months ago I find it funny how everyone cared so much about privacy, but as soon as they had to give it up to hate on what was popular to hate on (Twitter), they just sold their privacy back to Meta without hesitation. Really goes to show that most of what everyone does on social media is nothing more than trying to do what's popular rather than to actually do what's right. ... 22
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@luden14410 months ago Threads has already started censoring content 🙁 16
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@Slipsch10 months ago Marques I noticed you like brighter mic like the RE27 ND, I would like to recommend you the LS-208. You'll be really impressed with the mic.
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@toshaks10 months ago : Is Asus's only 2 OS updates rather than 4 or 5 not a problem? For long term use, I feel it's a problem 2
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@ComboBreakerHD10 months ago Threads has an advantage, when people can get thousands of engagements day one it'll keep them there. I haven't seen much about politics, mostly rich content, dank memes, harmless shitposts. It's a different vibe, I haven't spent a minute correcting anyones made up bullshit so that's a W. Twitter is just such an inescapably depressing hellscape. ... 3
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@marcinoo9710 months ago Threads is a conversation platform where u get banned for having a conversation. 7
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@rizakatsudon10 months ago Thankfully there are ways to get Sync for Reddit to keep working via revanced patches and setting it up as your own app. I cannot work with the default reddit app/"new" reddit layout.
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@thatdudeontheinternet10 months ago This is my friday evening ritual now, but now that it late into the afternoon and I've seen this I have to hold back till it's evening
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@Mirtual10 months ago "twitter killer" is a slight exaggeration 😬 3
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@vinny711410 months ago No chapters?
I wont ever forgive YouTube for removing the dislike buttons NEVER.
The add on YouTube is out of control, down right annoying.
YouTube should let premium subscribers see the dislike button. I can't stress this enough. Only being able to see the positive is ridiculous.
In my opinion bye Twitter, hello Threads. ... 3
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@diegoeffio10 months ago Devid including Marques on the 20 club at the end was wholesome
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@drm4210 months ago Pretty sure the first commercially available smartphone with wireless charging was Palm Pre with their own wireless charging standard called Touchstone. You're welcome. Now I feel old. 1
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@azaanshah637810 months ago Threads definitely has huge potential to beat out twitter, and honestly I'm rooting for it 3